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posted by [personal profile] purplecthulhu at 11:07am on 26/05/2003
Margaret Atwood's new book Oryx and Crake is set in a world in the aftermath of a geneticly engineerd catastophe. I've not read it, so can give you no details of what happened or what the nature of the aftermath might be, but to a seasoned SF reader, it all sounds quite familiar, in the context of post-singularity fiction.

And that's the problem.

Margaret Atwood denies that she is writing science fiction. She did this before with The Handmaid's Tale. The claim didn't really work then, and it works even less now that she is dealing with some of the nuts and bolts of science within her fiction. She calls what she is writing 'speculative fiction', and in so doing she denigrates the tradition she is parasitizing at the same time that she is displaying her ignorance. Her mistakes must be corrected.

Why is her work literature and deserving of serious attention while those of Vinge, Stross, Ryman, Bear, Goonan, Egan and others who've dealt with similar subject matter labelled science fiction and deserving of denigration and obscurity?

There was a discussion about this on the Today Programme on saturday morning. In the red corner, standing up for science fiction, was Brian Appleyard. It was the first time I've ever agreed with him on anything. The other speaker, whose name I forget, was effectively claiming that SF is characterized only by bad writing and had nothing to do with content or subject matter. Examples of well respected writers mentioned by Appleyard, who work within science fiction, like Ballard and Lem, were written off as literary writers who really don't know that they are, while the issue of bad writing in genre literature was ignored.

I wonder how he, Margart Atwood or others who've written SF butr dare not admit it (eg. PD James, P Theroux), would have written off any longer list of literarily acclaimed SF writers that one could come up with: Banks, Bradbury, Aldiss, Wells, Shelly, Lessing, Moorcock, Gaiman, Wolfe, Dick, Crowley, Delaney, Ryman, Butler to name but a few.

I also wonder how they'd react when its pointed out to them that their dazzlingly original works are just reinventions of ideas and situations that SF has looked at time and again.

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posted by [identity profile] daveon.livejournal.com at 03:44am on 26/05/2003
I also wonder how they'd react when its pointed out to them that their dazzlingly original works are just reinventions of ideas and situations that SF has looked at time and again.

Denial, probably. Like they're in now.

Hell, some people think the Matrix is an original idea too.
 
posted by [identity profile] sbisson.livejournal.com at 04:00am on 26/05/2003
Yup. Remember Amis' Time's Arrow?
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posted by [personal profile] rosefox at 11:50am on 26/05/2003
Not when you describe it to people who don't know anything about it as "You know those holodecks on Star Trek? Imagine the whole world was like that, all the time, one big holodeck".
 
I have the essay, which I think is collected in Shorter Views, and recall the GoH lecture he gave on paraliterature at the 1995 Worldcon.

Margaret Attwood cannot admit she is writing science-fiction, because science-fiction is paraliterature, and paraliterature, by definition can't be good writing: if it's good, it's not science-fiction: if it's science-fiction, it's not good.

 
posted by [identity profile] misia.livejournal.com at 04:49am on 26/05/2003
As my agent says: "Look at the SHELVES, people! It's ALL GENRE FICTION!"

And you know, he's right. Given that "literary fiction" is now its very own little niche, very specialized, with its own rules and regulations... well, it's just true.

Alas, it's also given the imprimatur of being Literature, with other things Not Being So. But I imagine that given time, that'll change.
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posted by [identity profile] therealjae.livejournal.com at 09:32am on 26/05/2003
Of course it's science fiction, in the same way that "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern is Dead" is fanfiction.

-J
 
posted by [identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com at 10:29am on 26/05/2003
Actually, I think a case could be made for R&GaD being science fiction...
 
posted by [identity profile] overconvergent.livejournal.com at 11:30am on 26/05/2003
I think that "parasitising" is possibly going a bit too far ... "inadvertently contributing to" would be my reading of it. And "Her mistakes must be corrected" sounds a little bit too prescriptive to me. Surely people can call their work what they want (we don't have to take them seriously when they do this of course).

In previous centuries women writers wrote under male pseudonyms to avoid censure. I think that Atwood is trying to emphasise that she isn't in the Conan the Barbarian slash-and-screw mould or the Star Wars western-in-space tradition.

She'd probably prefer the tradition of R.U.R., Brave New World, 1984, etc ... people using SF as a vehicle for social commentary rather than writing SF for its own sake.
 
posted by [identity profile] puppytown.livejournal.com at 03:21pm on 26/05/2003
What's wrong with speculative fiction? Seems like a good inclusive term to me!
 
posted by [identity profile] nlindq.livejournal.com at 03:58pm on 26/05/2003
Neil Gaiman commented on this phenomenon in his online journal last June.

And a followup. (scroll down a bit).

An excerpt:
"To give a bit more background on yesterday's comments: during the years where I was making a lot of my living professionally reviewing books, through to the years I was on the Arthur C. Clarke Award jury (reading every work of SF published in the UK), which was a solid nine year period from 1983 to 1992 of reading and reviewing pretty much everything that came over the transom, every year would bring one or more books written by "mainstream authors" of varying fame, using science fictional tropes, usually very badly handled, accompanied by a press release in which the press office, the author and the publisher would proudly and loudly proclaim the book wasn't science fiction."
 
posted by [identity profile] elisem.livejournal.com at 10:34pm on 26/05/2003
books written by "mainstream authors" of varying fame, using science fictional tropes, usually very badly handled

Yeah, that certainly does seem to be the most common result. Those "I'm not writing science fiction!" writers have about the same level of grace, skill, knowledge, and familiarity with the context, history, development and depth of the literature in question as, oh, say, somebody who felt like writing a children's book because they think that kids' books must be simple to do, and they can just knock one off in a weekend and rake in the bucks from the undiscriminating audience.

Those writers are what happens when contempt and unfamiliarity breed.

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