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The UK government has finally admitted that the vast majority of responses I the consultation exercise were against ID cards:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3004376.stm

However, they may ignore this consultation exercise and try to fudge a poll to get support for them.

Can't say I'm surprised by that, but I am glad they've been forced, kicking and screaming, to amdit the results of the consultation exercise.

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Of course the results of the consultation exercise were mostly negative. And of course there will be many many hundreds of messages to MPs against it and very few for.

There are some very obvious reasons for this.

Please don't suggest it adds any validity to the paranoid rantings of the priveleged classes isolated enough from poverty that they can form anarchist views.

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So, you've done a poll of your own and you're convinced that the sole opposition to mandatory identity cards is among "the privileged classes" - who are who, exactly? What was the basis of your poll? Who did you ask, and what questions did you ask, and how many people did you ask, and how did you establish whether they were privileged or unprivileged?

Oh, and where did you get the idea that only people who have been "isolated from poverty" can form anarchist views?

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I think you must have a rather short memory. But scant weeks ago the government was justifying the introduction of ID cards on the basis that the consultation process had produced 2000 responses with 2/3 in favour. Would your comment then have been 'of course they're in favour because its a good idea' or 'of course they're in favour because they're all employees, directors and lobby groups of companies who'll get big contracts for ID cards'?

The privileged anarchists don't always get to dominate these consultation processes. The actions of STAND and others were a very last minute process, and things could easily have gone the other way if there wasn't genuine antipathy to ID cards in the UK.

In what way would the poor underprivileged classes benefit from an ID card system? Since the proposed scheme is mostly justified by its use as an 'entitlement card' its in fact likely that the poor, more dependent on benefits, are the ones most likely to suffer from its inevitably poor and bug ridden execution.

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No.

My response would have been exactly what it is now. That the results of the poll are irrelevant. A poll tels us only what the majority of people think.

I am not a communist, I do not believe in the moral superiority of the proletariat. Not am I a democrat convinced that "The Public" is somehow a great and good being different in it's nature from the people whom one meets out in the streets everyday, who are mostly unconcerned and ignorant.

Those two ideologies both glorify the common man far above his place.

I do not claim that the people answering the poll where priveleged anarchists. The people who answered the poll were panicky fools, easily led by paranoid scaremongers.

And the reason I say that only priveleged people become anarchists is because direct exposure to poverty shows one what the effects of anarchy are. The downtrodden are trodden upon. Anarchocapitalism is just another word for survival of the fitest, and the problem with survival of the fitest is that only the fitest survive... as one of the "unfit" I don't like that idea very much.

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[from the article]

[Unnamed Home Office speaker] pointed to a BBC poll for the Morning Show on 22 January which asked "Would you carry an ID card?"
Of the 12,323 people who reponded by phone, interactive TV and online, 89% said yes.

Maybe we should commission another poll ... and another one ...

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