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Interesting exchange between the Tories and industry over the last few days.

Tories to IT Industry: our manifesto commitment is to ditch ID cards, so there'll have to be get out clauses in the government contracts in case we win.

IT Industry to Tories: we don't care about no stinking democracy! If you upset our nice little earner we'll get all huffy and won't accept any lucrative contracts from any nasty Tory government.

Of course I paraphrase, but when the situation is such that even David Davis can come up with a decent quote like, "Your claim to be neither for or against the policy of introducing ID cards in the UK, given the clear commercial interest of a number of your members, is simply disingenuous", then one has to be amused.

The vision of IT companies stomping away from the government teat in a fit of pique about their lost ID Card millions, thus allowing their competitors in, is also mildly ludicrous.
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posted by [identity profile] purpletigron.livejournal.com at 05:32pm on 08/02/2007
Why am I not in the least bit surprised?
 
posted by [identity profile] abigailb.livejournal.com at 06:12pm on 08/02/2007
I seem to remember the Tories in the late 1990s were claiming the reason the rail privatisation didn't go all that well, was because Labour had in effect sabotaged it by making noises about renationalisation it, such that companies were scared from investing money. And now they are at it, too? :)
 
posted by [identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com at 06:18pm on 08/02/2007
Rail privatisation was done in such a nonsensical way that it was bound to be a mess. Anything else is special pleading.
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posted by [personal profile] timill at 09:43pm on 08/02/2007
I think it's true of the sale of some of the assets - after all, the price people are willing to pay to rent assets for a couple of years and the price they'll pay to keep them permanently are rather different.

It also explains why companies that weren't interested at the point of original sale suddenly became willing to stump up lots of cash a year or two later. So it accounts for the "selling off cheap" problem that Labour was annoyed about.

As to the running of the trains: no influence there.
 
posted by [identity profile] celestialweasel.livejournal.com at 07:07pm on 08/02/2007
Oh, who are these c**ts? Trade associations are always vermin, their only purpose is to suckle at the special interest teat. I have never heard of them.
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posted by [identity profile] hairyears.livejournal.com at 01:12am on 09/02/2007


Any company that has placed bids for the ID card project has allowed greed to trample common sense: they know that it's unworkable.

I guess the Crapitas and EDS's of this world are immune to reputational damage, having amply demonstrated an unlimited appetite for public funds in the delivery of failed projects. But it's a step too far to ignore the commercial risks, or to protest against exposure to potential losses, when you knowingly enter into a project that is immoral, unpopular, unneccsary and uneconomical, technically-impossible and commissioned by proven incompetents.

 
posted by [identity profile] blonde222.livejournal.com at 03:08pm on 09/02/2007
Someone I know well, who knows about the ID scheme first hand, says that there are no IT companies who currently have the capability to do this scheme. And anyone who takes Government money to work on it now, is doing so in the full knowledge that:

1) they can't deliver on time
2) they can't deliver to budget
3) they can't deliver to specification
 
posted by [identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com at 09:33am on 10/02/2007
I am not surprised at all.

The only people attempting to give an honest picture seem to be the LSE academics who've been put through the ringer because they've had the temerity to question government numbers. Utterly disgusting.

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