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purplecthulhu at 10:38am on 13/07/2007
I know there are a number of you out there with doctorates of one kind or another, and I'm wondering if you get the same twitch as me when someone calls you Mr (or Ms or Mrs or Miss) rather than Dr. I'm usually not one for titles, but when someone uses one I want it to be the right one.
I didn't work hard for that PhD for it just to be ignored!
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I didn't work hard for that PhD for it just to be ignored!
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All of them are 'equally' valid since is simultaneously a surgeon (by qualification), a doctor (by trade -- he's not a practising surgeon anymore) and a university professor.
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I get annoyed when people address letters to my husband and I as 'Mr & Mrs T Underwood'. I hate being referred to purely as the wife of my husband ('Mr & Mrs Underwood' is fine, though - at least it doesn't strip me of my own first name). I haven't trained his side of the family out of this habit of addressing envelopes yet, though. *sigh*
Thoug I bet that if I had a doctorate, they'd get confused and start addressing letters to 'Mr & Dr T Underwood' which would be infinitely more annoying. MY doctorate, damnit! :-)
(hmm. If both my husband and I had doctorates, would the correct address be 'Drs Underwood', 'Dr & Dr Underwood', or 'Dr & Dr T Underwood'?)
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'Is that Miss or Mrs?' - 'No, it's Doctor'
Mr and Dr used to cause problems at some hotels (yes, that's you I'm thinking of, Adelphi) since some staff couldn't cope with the idea of a female with a doctorate, and so these had to be gay couples... Hopefully that's changed!
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The only time I use it away from work is when someone's being overly formal and calling me "Mr Glover" unnecessarily. At that point I say I prefer to go by "Steve", but if they must use a title then it's "Dr", thanks very much. This usually has the desired effect (and only once led to a query about persistend indigestion).
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This is, of course, excepting the first week or so after our vivas when I'm sure myself and the handful of other people I know likely to finish about the same time will almost certain take every single opportunity to call each other "Doctor", until the novelty wears off.
To be entirely fair Adam already insists on calling everyone "doctor" whether they have a doctorate or not, but he's been doing that for years.
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These days, when filling in forms or in other official contexts I do always specify 'Dr'. In person, I usually don't correct people who call me 'Mr', except supercilious shop assistants (in which case the fact that I'm a customer should ideally be enough to guarantee the required lack of condescension and rudeness) - usually when talking to plumbers or decorators I say "please call me Nick".
I use Dr on my university email signature block when sending formal messages, eg "your paper is now ready for publication, please check the proofs and let us know if it's ok" or when writing a reference for one of my students (but in the former case it's mainly to stop American types calling me Professor).
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I left Spain before all this mattered to me, but I've just emailed them enquiring whether it's their practice or somethign standard. I don't think people use their doctor title terribly often back home (I could be wrong), maybe it's a matter of culture and background.
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"Hi, this is [estate agent]. We've got a Dr [name] here who'd like to have a look at your house."
"He teaches at the university."
"No, he's not a proper doctor."
"OK, thanks, I'll tell him."
(puts phone down)
"No, sorry, they're not interested."
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Oh -- in the classroom? ALWAYS Dr (and not professor, although that's fairly normal for all faculty at my institution).
Gah. Sorry -- didn't mean to say so much. Clearly it occupies too much brain space!
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The word "doctor" means to change something...? I know usually when used in such a fashion it's in a fairly negative light (doctoring the results for e.g.) but isn't thats why folks are referred to as "doctors"...because they change(d) stuff? In the case of MDs they change peoples humour/health and they "doctor" the practice of medicine in that they (hopefully) improve it. In the case of academics they have quite literally changed the way we think and view the universe through their research, inventions and/or discoveries.
Doctor just means "changer" in a sense. If any add weight to the word or consider some unworthy of it, is it not merely a sign of prejudices against or towards academia? (Do you ever catch yourself thinking "they gave you a doctorate for THAT?!?" when you hear the titles of some theses?)
Or am I mad?
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I don't have one.
Here at Fermilab, lots of people have one. It is rare for anyone here to address, or refer to, someone else as "Doctor" Soandso. (Exception: the tiny number of physicians here.)
My wife, a clinical psychologist, has one. She uses it all the time; at the office she answers the phone, "This is Doctor [Maidenname]." She deals not only with clients but also with attorneys, police chiefs, fire commissioners, etc., so maybe it enhances her status as a professional. Her staff refer to her as Doctor when speaking with outsiders, but use her first name when addressing her.
She does not insist that I address her as Doctor. Sometimes I do, anyway.
She will answer to "Doctor [Marriedname]" but she had built a professional reputation before I came along, and did not wish to switch names. She uses her married name socially.
We will be paying off a large student loan for years to come, for the privilege of calling her "Doctor."
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Except the occasional odd person. And undergraduates, who can be usefully intimated with qualifications. And the occasional administrator one wants to belittle...
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I've been "Ms" ever since I left high school as I just didn't feel like a "miss" anymore. Surprising the number of people who were funny about that back then, but these days most people seem to recognise it by pronunciation and it's been years since I had to spell it out M-S, not M-I-S-S. Even if I got married now I'd been unlikely to change unless my husband had a really cool surname (I don't consider the one I've got to be my real family name so I'm not terribly attached to it.) I shudder every time someone calls me "Mrs B*" as that's my mother.
I'm not nearly so irked by the idea of honorary titles as I am by the relatively simple and stupid degrees that are now being offered in various places which enabled not very learned or hard working people to 'earn' a doctorate.
BTW, why are surgeons endowed with the title "Mister" once they have qualified? Seems to me they should have something more special after all those years of work.
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Surgeons just see themselves as very special, so have to be treated that way. They're delicate flowers and have to be treated right or they get stroppy, and you don't want to be operated on by a stroppy person!