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posted by [personal profile] purplecthulhu at 10:30pm on 23/10/2007
So storing data unencrypted in an odd folder and having a link on your webpage to a terrorist site counts as hiding information and providing terrorist training? And is justification for a raid by over 100 police?

Standards of justice and evidence are clearly way down if you're the wrong ethnicity and the wrong religion in the UK!

I suppose if he was using Linux or MacOS that we know police forensics people have troubel with then you'd be done for using the wrong operating system...
Mood:: 'angry' angry
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posted by [identity profile] surliminal.livejournal.com at 09:36pm on 23/10/2007
Thanks for te link - I'll have a look tomorrow..
 
posted by [identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com at 10:04pm on 23/10/2007
There's a link to the judgement from teh Reg article so lots of legalese to get your teeth into. I'd be interested in your comments.
 
posted by [identity profile] a-d-medievalist.livejournal.com at 10:15pm on 23/10/2007
That's just ... one would think a person had to show some intent of using the info.
 
posted by [identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com at 10:19pm on 23/10/2007
That's just the point. The law here is now such that having the information seems to be enough. Got the Anarchists Cookbook? Straight to jail (though probably less likely if you're not moslem...)
 
posted by [identity profile] canadian-worm.livejournal.com at 11:28pm on 23/10/2007
But according to your article, it is okay if you don't hide it.

I'll need to get a new book shelf, or better yet, a trophy case, to figure prominently in the front room, to hold my copy of the aforementioned Cookbook, the Beginners guide to Bioweapons, Nuclear Weapons Design Monthly, The Catcher in the Rye, Mein Kampf, The Koran and The Bible, and all the other radical literature I can find....
 
posted by [identity profile] canadian-worm.livejournal.com at 11:31pm on 23/10/2007
searched adjacent houses and shops

In rereading the article, it's not just possession, it appears to be good enough if your neighbour possesses it!
 
posted by [identity profile] lizw.livejournal.com at 06:45pm on 24/10/2007
The jury seem to have thought that there was intent in this case, based on comments Siddique's fellow students say he made to them, to the effect that he wanted to make an attack in Glasgow.
 
posted by [identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com at 09:31pm on 24/10/2007
Lots of people mouth off, far fewer do anything. Who hasn't expressed a wish for some public figure to disappear in a hail of bullets at one time or another? And isn't the kind of evidence you describe hearsay, and usually not admissible?
 
posted by [identity profile] brixtonbrood.livejournal.com at 10:34pm on 24/10/2007
Hearsay is inadmissible when used to prove the truth of the statement made - it is not inadmissible when what you are trying to prove is that the statement was made. Also, (but I'm diverting from my actual legal knowledge here) this is analogous to a confession, which is, of course, admissible.
 
posted by [identity profile] del-c.livejournal.com at 10:18pm on 23/10/2007
And is justification for a raid by over 100 police?

It'll have to be, I guess. The alternative is explaining that they conducted a raid by over 100 police amd found nothing of significance. That's too embarrassing a thing to have on your half-yearly performance report.

I'm sure the police would have liked to have turned up something better, but that's the best they could get after "some 34 computers and hard drives were examined. More than 5,000 computer discs and DVDs were removed, along with 25 mobile phones and another 19 SIM cards. Almost 700 documents were taken from the computers and more than 1,000 statements taken."

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