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posted by [personal profile] purplecthulhu at 11:41pm on 05/11/2004
The No2ID UK anti-IDcards campaign is moving ahead.

Among other things they're organising a petition which will force some notice to be taken by No10. If you worry about ID cards, please go and sign it now:

http://www.no2id-petition.net/

Furthermore, the more the public hear about it, the less they seem to like it. The recent consultation exercise turned out to have 47% of responses against the cards, and only 31% in favour, while the governments own focus groups whe were initially in favour of the card were "generally a little less enthusiastic following discussion of the details".

Meanwhile, buried in the annoucements of the splitting of ID cards, drivers licenses and passports last week, we find that they've now doubled the cost of a passport as a result. This is in addition to the likely reduction of passport lifetimes from 10 years to 5 since this is the maximum length of time the data chip manufacturers think their devices will last.

Even if you have no other objection to ID cards, do you really want to pay 4 times for a passport as a result?

And among the government's response to my own submission to the consulation exercise they say, in response to my worries about the costs of ID card terminals for the NHS, police force, benefit offices etc. that 'the initial start up costs for the identity card scheme will be met from existing Departmental budgets.' So this means that all those nice ID terminals in doctors surgeries, hospitals, police stations, police cars, job centres etc. will be paid for from those department's usual running costs. How many policemen and nurses are they going to fire to pay for this, because the money for this new kit isn't coming from any new budgets?
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posted by [identity profile] purpletigron.livejournal.com at 05:17am on 06/11/2004
Please note that, to be in time for the Queens Speech, the deadline for signing this petition is Fri 19 Nov 2004.
 
posted by [identity profile] canadian-worm.livejournal.com at 09:41am on 08/11/2004
The passport for us duals, when obtained through the British consulate, was CDN$120, and they wouldn't allow us to renew while in England for 22GBP. Is that going up too?

The CDN government is now requiring all duals to get another CDN ID card to go with the foreign passport (ie. non CDN) which costs another CDN$60, and it expires every 5 years.

Is this another tax grab? or are they really trying to discourage people from obtaining the proper travel documents? I think it'll cost them more in the long run, because queues will be longer getting through customs, and they'll need to hire more staff!
 
posted by [identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com at 02:41pm on 08/11/2004
Thus doesn't seem to be a tax grab but instead reflects the fact that the system is genuinely expensive. Also, I think it will no longer be possible to obtain a UK passport at a foreign consulate (which might make things interesting for people who lose their passports while abroad). I don't think they're trying to discourage people from getting the documents, they just haven't thought through the consequences. In fact, if Blunkett's scheme goes all the way, *everyone* in the UK will have to pay for at least an ID card, whether they want a passport of not.

The costs of passports to everyone will go up substantially, so you'll be caught by this.

I don't understand why Canada would require people with dual citizenship to have an ID card as well as both Canadian and another passport. Seems overkill! Do they have a huge databasing infrastructure behind the ID system? This is the most sinister part of Blunkett's scheme, and the part that will be most expensive and most prone to failure.

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