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posted by [personal profile] purplecthulhu at 10:37am on 29/08/2009
According to BBC News Online the government want us all to get online. But this announcement comes in the same week it emerged that (dark) Lord Mandelson wants to give himself the power to cut people (and everyone else using that account) off the internet if they are suspected of downloading copyright material (suspected - no legal procedure to establish guilt or innocence required).

Call that joined up government, 'cos I don't!
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posted by [identity profile] major-clanger.livejournal.com at 10:26am on 29/08/2009
This is why the latest u-turn is so frustrating. The Digital Britain report, whilst not to everyone's taste, did acknowledge that with online delivery of government services being so important it was not acceptable to have total disconnection as a punishment - it would be a sort of digital excommunication (see my comments over at LawClanger, and my recent follow-up).
 
posted by [identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com at 11:57am on 29/08/2009
Quite how the Dark Lord will get this past EU law will be interesting!

They're likely not to be in power to do it, but it's the kind of idea that Tories might copy...
 
posted by [identity profile] major-clanger.livejournal.com at 11:58am on 29/08/2009
The cynical amongst us suspect a pincer movement - pass UK law 'compliant with EU law' whilst at the same time removing or neutering Amendment 138.
 
posted by [identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com at 12:03pm on 29/08/2009
Maybe time to join the Pirate Party...
 
posted by [identity profile] major-clanger.livejournal.com at 12:21pm on 29/08/2009
Not for me - I see them as the other side of the coin of Internet Rights Idiocy, which is why I am so frustrated that the 'debate' on such issues is in fact a shouting match between two far-distant entrenched positions that just erect and tear down straw-man versions of one another.

The PP position is in effect Copyright Communism; RIAA and their like espouse Copyright Feudalism. Being neither a communist nor a feudalist, I don't agree with either.
 
posted by [identity profile] a-cubed.livejournal.com at 02:16pm on 29/08/2009
Actually, the exact policies of PPUK are still under discussion, but so far they're not set on completely dismantling copyright, just on decriminalising individual sharing of information online. My problem with them is the name. OK, they get the recognition from the Swedish originals, and there's a long history of groups expropriating the negative names given to them and turning them into something positive (at least amongst their own community). However, I'm with Stallman on the term Piracy (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Piracy). As I put it in an article I'm working on at the moment: Piracy is a hideous crime involving the armed hijack of a vessel at sea and the theft of the cargo and even the vessel itself often while employing savage violence against the crew and any passengers. The link between this heinous crime and unauthorised copying of material under copyright is one drawn by those who cannot justify the status of their holding of copyright, and who must label the act of copying as something so hideous that no one can argue against it as the only way of winning their case. The author is with Richard Stallman on this usage and therefore describes it technically as unauthorised copying. Even the ``illegality'' of such an action is uncertain in many cases without deep examination of the circumstances --- not all unauthorised copying is illegal.

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