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Science and religion

posted by [personal profile] purplecthulhu at 08:54pm on 29/05/2007
There seems to be a disagreement between Lord Rees and Dawkins et al. on how science should deal with religion:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,2089946,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront
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posted by [identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com at 05:04am on 30/05/2007
I presume that you can sort of look at this as Lord Rees as the equivalent of Churchill saying "Let's collaborate with Stalin because he is the lesser of two evils and we need him to win," and Dawkins and Jones saying,"Not by that much, and we'll end up worse off with the other side grabbing masses of territory while we look on."
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posted by [identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com at 08:54am on 30/05/2007
Oh, and the analogy was carefully chosen because both of them are right.
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posted by [identity profile] purpletigron.livejournal.com at 09:10am on 30/05/2007
I suppose the key difference between Stalin and, say, the Archbishop of Canterbury, is ... why do they have power as allys? There was at least some hope of the people rejecting Stalin's ideology.
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posted by [identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com at 10:50am on 30/05/2007
Not actually equating the Archbishop to Stalin - just saying that the choice is pretty much the same. Do you ally with someone you don't trust or agree with out of expediancy (the enemy of my enemy is my friend) and take the consequences (becoming allied to a cause you do not believe in, and that you think is dangerous), or do you reject the alliance and bear the consequences?

It also has to be said that you would expect people in the biological sciences to be a lot more wary - the churches are on the whole more likely nowadays to be against biological theories and research areas (stem cell research, for instance) than against anything in theoretical physics or chemistry. Dawkins, in particular, is a feminist and a supporter of gay rights... which probably makes him even more wary.
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